If A Lair Is Dropped, And No One Buys It, Does It Have A Value?

It’s a tortured title, yes, but the philosophy is sound. 

We’ve got a wild situation here with the current Secret Lair pace. Last year, there was a whole series of bangers from the Secret Lair folks, and this year, we’re off to a more tepid start. Several days since it became available, and none of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle lairs are even low stock.

What does this mean for those Lairs, and what does this mean for the SLD genre? Let’s discuss.

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Cliff (@WordOfCommander at Twitter and BlueSky) has been writing for MTGPrice since 2013, and is an eager Commander player, Draft enthusiast, and Cube fanatic. A high school science teacher by day, he’s also the co-host of the MTG Fast Finance podcast. If you’re ever at an event and you see a giant flashing ‘CUBE DRAFT’ sign, go over, say hi, and be ready to draft.

The Mana Math of Magic: The Gathering |Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Welcome back to another installment of Mana Math, where I do my best to take the soup of information that Wizards throws at us and try to answer the core question of these packs: How many do I need to open to get the card/cards I want?

They are legally required to give us a certain amount of this information, but they love to obfuscate things a bit. The odds for each category are clearly laid out, but you’ve got to hunt through the Collecting TMNT article to get the needed numbers. I’ve done all that for you, and I have a set of charts that should help clear up what you can open in a TMNT Collector Booster.

This set might be a record for the number of treatments in a Collector Booster: Headliners, Silhouette, Source Material, Japan Showcase w/Fracture Foil, Pixel Art, and Extended-Art frames. There’s a lot of options, so let’s go through some of the later slots in a pack and break down what you get. Everything in a bullet point is taken verbatim from the Collecting article

1 Traditional foil or surge foil basic land

  • A traditional foil (66.7%) or surge foil (11.1%) pizza basic land
  • A surge foil rooftop basic land (22.2%)

The pizza lands are such fun, I know a lot of folks don’t like them, but I really appreciate the whimsical art here. Giant broccoli on a pizza slice is hideous and hilarious. The lands should be decent value for a while, as people who love these lands are gonna get a bunch. Probably not going to be more than a few dollars each, but it should hold up at that price over time. 

1 Traditional foil rare or mythic rare card

  • There are 53 rare (87.6%) and 15 mythic rare (12.4%) cards from the main set that can be found in these slots.

Regular foil rares/mythics aren’t usually something we track, but the numbers are a little smaller and the timeline is compressed, so I’m keeping an eye on everything. 

  • 1 Non-foil (75%) or traditional foil (25%) source material card 

I do so love it when there’s a clear ratio for cards. Yes, you can get a nonfoil Source Material card from Play Boosters, but it’ll take 560 of those boosters to get you one specific nonfoil. That’s a pretty low rate, and I’m not going to worry about that as a source of cards to throw off the ratio. We’ll need to keep an eye on how many of these cards end up with a foil multiplier higher than 3x, almost like the good old days.

2 Booster Fun or TMC cards

  • A non-foil mythic rare silhouette card (2.9%)
  • A non-foil rare scene card (5.8%)
  • A non-foil rare (13.2%) or mythic rare (1.4%) sewer card
  • A non-foil extended-art rare (16.1%) or mythic rare (less than 1%) card from the main set
  • A non-foil borderless mythic rare from the Turtle Power! Commander deck (2.2%)
  • A non-foil new-to-Magic rare (26.2%) or mythic rare (less than 1%) card from the Turtle Power! Commander deck
  • A non-foil rare reprint card from the Turtle Power! Commander deck (19%)
  • A surge foil new-to-Magic rare (6.1%) or mythic rare (less than 1%) card from the Turtle Power! Commander deck
  • A surge foil reprint card from the Turtle Power! Commander deck (4.4%)
  • A surge foil rare (1.3%) or mythic rare (0.6%) pixel card

The above adds up to 99.2%. The three ‘less than 1%’ are each one-card categories, so on my table, I’m giving each an equal shot of 0.26%. Nonfoil borderless TMC Mythic means the six face commanders from the Turtle Power deck, which is Heroes in a Half-Shell, the four Turtles, and Splinter. 

Putting the Pixel cards in this slot (and thereby giving you two shots at them) was a nice choice, else the Pixel cards would be harder to get than Fracture Foils usually are, which may or may not be the thing they wanted to do. We’re getting a nice supply of the new-to-Magic cards, and there will certainly be some wonderful opportunities to spec on those cards in Surge Foil too.

Even with the double-slot bonus, the Surge Foils and Pixel cards are difficult to pull and are tougher to open than anything except the Fracture Foils and the Headliners. If any of these are in big demand, watch out.

Then we have the big-money slot: 1 Foil Booster Fun rare or mythic rare card

  • A traditional foil rare scene card (13.2%)
  • A traditional foil rare (29.7%) or mythic rare (3.3%) sewer card
  • A traditional foil extended-art rare (36.3%) or mythic rare (less than 1%) card from the main set
  • A traditional foil silhouette card (6.6%)
  • A traditional foil (9%) or fracture foil (less than 1%) Japan Showcase card
  • Kevin Eastman headliner cards appear in this slot at a low rate in Collector Boosters.

The above add up to 98.1%. The leftover 1.9% is some combo of the Foil Extended-Art mythic, the Fracture Foils, and the Headliners. From here, we’re getting into speculation, and you should treat the numbers as guesswork. Logical guesswork, but guesswork nonetheless. 

The first category is that solo FEA mythic card.  If we presume it has the same drop rate as the Mythic Foil Sewer and Silhouette, 121.21. That’s 0.825%, and leaves us with 1.075% for the Fracture Foils and the Headliner Gold Signatures.

The last sets with Fracture Foils, it’s been very consistently at 1000 packs to get a specific card, or a 1% drop rate. This number was as close as I could get it and still be under the 1% number. I want to repeat that this is an estimate, since they don’t want to tell us the proportion of the chase cards. I believe it’s higher than the 0.6% drop rate of the mythic rare pixel art, but I don’t have the specifics for the drop rate. The precise data needed to get this in the wild would be an exorbitant number of CB boxes opened by one source, who counted them all up, and that’s not feasible either. 

I genuinely don’t understand why they could give us the 0.6% figure on the Surge Foil Mythic Rare Pixels in the previous chart, but have to skimp out on other numbers. As such, I could be horrifically wrong in my estimates, even though I think the logic is sound. 

As a bigger picture, these slots need to be highlighted: 80.3% of the double-slot pulls will be rares of some sort, and 79.2% of the last slot will be rares. Together, that means just over half of the CBs opened will be triple-rare Collector Boosters. Some of the rares might be decent value, especially with special frames, but that’s still a lot of feels-bad moments. CBs have always been a different sort of lottery, but please keep in mind that when chasing the big money, you’re going to hit a lot of potholes on the way. 

The Surge Foils (including the Pixel cards) are cards I would likely hang on to if I opened them in packs. Being as rare as they are, we’ve got a lot of time for these to mature and become surprisingly expensive. Keep in mind that even with the two chances, the Surge Foils are all at least twice as rare as Sewer cards, Silhouette cards, or even the regular foil Japan Showcase cards.

The final foil slot of a CB is 99% cards that aren’t very rare, in terms of the packs needed to find a copy of a specific card. If the Japan Showcase foils (not the Fracture Foils) end up being mid-tier in price, then these packs will be very swingy indeed. We’ll keep an eye on these prices, and see where the packs end up. 

I hope this data helps you decide about your pack buying and cracking. As always, if you want to discuss the methods or results, please feel free to reach out, especially on the ProTrader Discord!

Cliff (@WordOfCommander at Twitter and BlueSky) has been writing for MTGPrice since 2013, and is an eager Commander player, Draft enthusiast, and Cube fanatic. A high school science teacher by day, he’s also the co-host of the MTG Fast Finance podcast. If you’re ever at an event and you see a giant flashing ‘CUBE DRAFT’ sign, go over, say hi, and be ready to draft.

Are we buying the Totally TubuLAIR Superdrop?

Yes, dear reader, this is a third superdrop in a six-week period, and there is no sign that this train is slowing down. We were expecting a Superdrop to go with the TMNT set, and here we go with six more sets of cards. 

So let’s talk about the specifics of the superdrop, what the use rates are, and what’s worth buying when it’s available in a week and a half on March 2.

Some overall info: We’re thankfully at the $30 nonfoil/$40 foil price point for these, and there’s no land drop here to compete with the Pizza lands in that bundle. There is no listed promo for this Drop, and the bundle discount is $10 for the all-foil or all-nonfoil, or $20 for the all-in-one drop. Very low discount, but we’re proving to them that we don’t care about discounts. 

For these cards, I’ll be listing the EDHREC number (please remember that EDHREC is useful but tilted towards precons, and the folks who upload their deck are only a small % of the playing population) and the value of any special versions of the card that already exist.

Baylen, the Haymaker (24k as Commander, #22 over last two years, plus 23k as card, raised foil $375)

Felidar Retreat (221k, showcase foil $4)

Master of Ceremonies (42k, promo foil $27)

Second Harvest (179k, SLD foil $11)

Sunforger (68k, pack foils $10-$35)

As always, we get a Lair with a good commander and some of its favorite accessories. This is a decent drop, but nothing is screaming at me. Baylen is a combo commander, very good no matter what direction you go. Don’t be fooled by Master of Ceremonies’ foil price, the nonfoil is still $10 but it is in pretty limited supply and group hugging like this isn’t always a popular strategy. The Second Harvest SLD printing had a dog on it, so that price is a little bumped too.

Loxodon Gatekeeper (7k decks, pack foil $10)

Sakashima’s Student (36k decks, all nonfoils $32 or so)

Throat Slitter (30k decks, pack foil $25)

Guttersnipe (241k decks, promo foil $3)

This Lair looks super cool, but financially, I think this is a trap. Only Guttersnipe has special versions already, and Gatekeeper is from OG Ravnica, and Throat Slitter hasn’t been foil since Betrayers of Kamigawa. That’s two cards from 2005, a long time to build up demand and for foils to drain out. Sakashima’s Student is the headliner, good as a clone, but this was a Jumpstart card then on the List and never put into large quantities. I am leery of this Lair, especially at double the copies of the other Lairs.

Settle the Wreckage (37k, pack foil $6)

Mental Misstep (227k decks, SLD foil $160, promo $175)

Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni (44k decks, BLB Showcase $11)

Anger (255k decks, SLD foil $9)

Chord of Calling (197k decks, SLD foil $13)

No one cares about Settle, and the three mid-tier cards are intriguing, but aren’t going to light up the world or grow quickly in price. So the question is, how big can this Mental Misstep get, especially as it’s super-banned in Modern and Legacy? The first SLD printing was more than three years ago, in the old era of Secret Lairs printed to demand, and it’s just kept going up ever since. The good news is that it just has to hold at less than half of the other version’s printing to be worth it, so I think this is worth buying.

Deepglow Skate (70k decks, SLD foil $6)

Pirated Copy (14k decks, pack nonfoil $20)

Kediss, Emberclaw Familiar (23k as partner, 101k as card, etched foil $16)

Hardened Scales (369k decks, two showcase foils at $5)

Triumph of the Hordes (99k decks, SLD foil $31)

Another case of ‘is one card worth it’ and I have to say I don’t hate the Lair. Four acceptable cards and then the Triumph, which has the original in New Phyrexia, then a List printing, then the Fortnite copies. Very low quantities over the years, and this is probably going to be worth it, but I am pretty ambivalent about this Lair. 

Delver of Secrets (3k decks, SLD foil $5)

Higure, the Still Wind (21k decks, SLD foil $30)

Species Specialist (40k decks, pack nonfoil $10)

Rampaging Baloths (262k decks, pack foils $5-$15)

Triskelion (28k decks, borderless foil 50¢)

Higure is a great card if you’re doing Ninja/Changeling things, but between the mediocre cards and the art, this is a Lair I’m avoiding. If I get the chance at some cheap Higure copies during Dump Week, I’m in, but I’ve been burned on 80’s nostalgia before and I don’t feel the need to go too wild here. 

So the only Lair I’m actively into is The Last Ronin, so that I can get some Mental Missteps. The rest I can give or take, and honestly, after the last couple Lairs that had a lot more for me to like and the chance to buy TMNT product soon, I think I’m going to skip most of this drop. I don’t expect it the majority to sell out, if the quantities are similar to the last couple drops. My exception is that I’ll try to get some of the Ronin Lairs, and just those, for the fervor when that one sells out. 

As always, I’d love to hear your thoughts and feedback on this Lair and my plan, so don’t hesitate to reach out, especially on the ProTrader Discord. 

Cliff (@WordOfCommander at Twitter and BlueSky) has been writing for MTGPrice since 2013, and is an eager Commander player, Draft enthusiast, and Cube fanatic. A high school science teacher by day, he’s also the co-host of the MTG Fast Finance podcast. If you’re ever at an event and you see a giant flashing ‘CUBE DRAFT’ sign, go over, say hi, and be ready to draft.

Building the Face Commanders for Secrets of Strixhaven

This week, we were given a leak of the five face commanders for the Secrets of Strixhaven decks, and it’s the five characters we know, in the color pairs that are both doing it different yet can still feel the same. We don’t know the stated theme of the decks, and we don’t know what’s in the decks, but the reveal has already caused some spikes and now I want to look at some potential includes. 

Generally speaking, I’d want to wait for the decks to come out before buying, but you may proceed with caution. Reprints aren’t impossible, and even if you have a fancy version, the players might not come out to get your shiny copy. (case in point: foil Flourishing Defenses)

Let’s talk about some Commanders!

Dina, Essence Brewer

Sacrifice! Counters! Black and green does its thing! You can build around either ability and have a grand time.

Kami of Whispered Hopes (promo foil $8) – The Kami both gives you more counters and is a really great target for those counters from Dina’s ability. Should be high on the inclusion list.

Ophiomancer (mh3 foil $1.50) – When you’re doing a lot of sacrificing, you want lots of fodder, and ol’ Ophio has always been great at that. 

Erebos, Bleak-Hearted (Showcase foil $4.50) – Another card that complements Dina nicely, allowing you to get the extra card every time, and Dina’s ability offsets the life loss.

Branching Evolution (PIP EA Surge $13) – If you’re doing the counters thing, do it more.

The Earth Crystal (Borderless Foil $16) – Your deck might have more black cards, but it’s likely you’ll want the bonus counters no matter what.

Commander Planeswalker! Let’s go looking at the passive, because the Spirits don’t get haste, nor do they keep the abilities. Plus there aren’t a lot of good RW spirits to build around. 

Quintorious, Loremaster (MAT special foil $0.50) – There’s a boatload of these on TCGPlayer, and I’m not sure the commander is good enough to get people excited. However, there might be a brick play here, buying them up for two bits and selling to a buylist for $1.50 each.

Squee, Goblin Nabob (MYB2 foil $20) – There’s a Secret Lair foil from the advent calendar that you might want instead, but the Future Sight frame is cool and much, much rarer. Squee is a great setup card for QHC if it stays in play, which is not a given.

Containment Construct (NEO foil $2) – If you’re discarding with the ability, why not get the token too?

Emeria, the Sky Ruin (nonfoils $19) – If you can get enough plains, you get the creature back plus a token!

Sephiroth, Fallen Hero (EA $4) – Make tokens, modify the tokens, keep the loop going. I don’t need much excuse to spec on Final Fantasy cards, either. 

Any Phoenix, any Disturb card, any Escape card, all of these do the thing that Quintorious wants to do, so take your pick. 

I have a Zaxara deck, so I’m well used to broken X spells. To start, you’re going to want lots of +1/+1 counter enablers, but the real meat of the deck is sweet X spells. 

Elementalist’s Palette (EA $5) – I’m hoping for a sweet foil version of this card soon, as if you get it to trigger twice, it gets out of hand real fast.

Unbound Flourishing (SLD foil $15) – Really, all of Calling All Hydra Heads is tempting, but this is the best card for Zimone out of the Lair.

Springleaf Parade (EA $6) – James clued me in to this card, and it does so much that you want to do. X spells often make tokens, and now you get mana out of them!

Doppelgang (FEA $1.50) – It’s a ridiculous mana cost, but this can do things no other card can do. Remember you only get to keep one copy if you pick a legendary creature.

Sporoocyst (Surge Foil $8) – One thing about these decks is that they are super hungry for mana. Getting even two lands off of this is a big help.

Nexos (regular $5) – These and the Surge Foil got bought out hard when Zimone was spoiled, so there might not be a lot of profit left, but if the deck takes off this is an absolutely absurd card. 

Killian will play very similar to Eriette of the Charmed Apple, and we’ve already seen Nurgle’s Rot spike thanks to the new Killian. However, you want to do two things: replay enchantments and have creatures attack with your enchantments on them. It’s plenty possible for you to focus on one aspect of the other, but really, Eriette does it much better. Killian gives one goad trigger, and then maybe you can get something good going on your side too. 

Gift of Immortality (pack foil $14) – This should be a top include for Killian, letting you put the commander and the enchantment into play over and over again. There’s a moment of vulnerability, but exile removal will also make you sad, so you won’t get away with it too much.

Greater Auramancy (WOT anime nonfoil $23) – I think the foils at $60 are tempting, and it won’t take much to move the confetti foils up a good bit, but I am staking a claim on these giving you the best return. It’s pretty easy to imagine these going to $50, whereas the foil doubling to $100 or the confetti hitting $200 is much more difficult. 

Eye of Nidhogg (FEA $2) – There’s a lot of enchantments that give a creature goaded status, and those are all worthy includes, but this one keeps coming back, giving you more cards! Plus there’s not all that many copies on TCG.

Rootha is a tough sell. There’s a lot of cards that will give you tokens for casting a spell, like Chrome Host Seedshark or Manaform Hellkite. Rootha has to be in play at the beginning of combat, with the spell already cast this turn. Casting more than one doesn’t even help you, as you only get one token.

Arcane Bombardment (FEA $6) – It’s convoluted, but it’s got a lot of potential.

Fires of Invention (FEA $2) – I don’t think a lot of Commander players are willing to give up playing on opponents’ turns, but there’s not a lot of cheap ways to start casting spells for free.

Galvanoth (pack foil $1) – Really the perfect complement to Rootha, giving you freebies all over the place.

River Song’s Diary (FEA Surge $3.50) – Someone bought a dozen of these this week, and I think it’s related to Rootha because it’s pretty easy to set up. 

Submerge (The List nonfoils $3.50) – Have Rootha in play, cast free spell, attack for 5 flying. Seems good.

Big Score/Pirate’s Pillage/Unexpected Windfall (bulk) – Three cards that do the same thing, but you need six mana. Cast the spell, get treasures, cast the commander, get a 4/4 flying haste. Not terrible.

Again, these are all specs that could be good, but I want to wait till the decklists are revealed before going deep. Happy building!

Cliff (@WordOfCommander at Twitter and BlueSky) has been writing for MTGPrice since 2013, and is an eager Commander player, Draft enthusiast, and Cube fanatic. A high school science teacher by day, he’s also the co-host of the MTG Fast Finance podcast. If you’re ever at an event and you see a giant flashing ‘CUBE DRAFT’ sign, go over, say hi, and be ready to draft.

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