Where the Value Goes

Welcome to Commander Legends: Battle for Baldur’s Gate. I don’t know what the cards have to do with the game, or the lore, but I do know that this set is jammed with sweet cards and awesome interactions.

What the set lacks, though, is a headliner mythic in terms of value, a card that everyone is chasing. Granted, the first time around, that was a Jeweled Lotus, which set an incredibly high mark for value and for rarity. We didn’t get a card like that, nor a big-value reprint like a Mana Crypt or Mana Drain or anything like that. 

As a result, the value of these cards has to go somewhere, and the first place to look will be the mythics, the most difficult to get. I went over your odds last week, but let’s get into some examples of the cards in CLB and if I’m ready to buy yet.

Ancient Dragons – The key with these five mythics is that each version is twice as rare as other mythics, because they are the only mythics with two special versions. The number of Ancient Gold Dragons in Borderless foil plus the number of Ancient Gold Dragons in Showcase foil is equal to the number of Battle Angels of Tyr in Borderless foil. There aren’t more copies of AGD because there are more versions, there’s just more options for the same number of copies.

As a result, this cycle is probably going to contain the most expensive cards in the set, at least at the beginning. The early prices bear this out, as people move sooner than they should, but it’s entirely possible that one or two of these dragons follows the Old Gnawbone path and just never gets cheap:

Gnawbone is one end of the potential spectrum here, but the other end is this:

My inclination is that while the Ancient Dragons are expensive mana-wise, they will generally be worth it on the board. We might see things like Garruk’s Uprising tick up as Dragon players want to give trample (and draw cards!) but my hunch is that the borderless foils are going to start high and rarely go lower, even after a couple of weeks. 

Kindred Discovery – This is a card that’s had no support but still has been in registered in 18k decks online. Just the Commander 2017 printing and a meager inclusion in The List. We know the card is good, and it’s popular too. As a rare, it’ll be relatively common leftovers after the big operations are done cracking packs, and this is one of my favorite targets in the set. It’s already down to $3 for the cheapest and $20 for the FEA, prices I am content at but I’m waiting a bit longer for hopefully a farther fall. 

Might not go too low, as this is the first foil printing, but we’ll see.

The Allied Battlebond Lands – We have some exact comparisons here, and that puts this on easy mode. FEA versions of the enemy lands from Commander Legends 1 are around $30, and those are about 2.5 times more common. (1/88 for these vs. 1/206 in original CL) Don’t forget that we have Expedition versions to look at too: 

The presence of these cards in a much rarer frame will do a lot to create a price ceiling for these lands, but frankly, let’s look at the graph for the nonfoils:

Battlebond wasn’t as heavily opened as a regular set, but the steady growth of these lands is a sign that the lands might be the safest bet around. I’m going to look for them to fall a bit further, probably to $5 or even $4, and then I’ll want a nice stack.

Cultist of the Absolute – Backgrounds might be useful in the 99 too, especially giving certain abilities. Static, like auras that don’t need to be recast. I’m very likely to wait until the rare and mythic ones find a floor and then pick up a few. Unique effects like this are usually worth speculating on.

Herald’s Horn – Down to $5ish as an uncommon in CLB Precon, and present in 50k decks online, this is another spec I’m all over, except for one problem. Later this year, we’re going to get the first foil version of the card as a year of the Tiger promo coming with The Brothers’ War, and that will soak up a lot of the money to be made.

Buying staples when they get cheap is a basic principle, and Herald’s Horn definitely fits that description. 

Monster Manual – Elvish Piper is good. This is better. I’m not anticipating this being expensive by any means, but I am looking forward to getting in on this at nearly-bulk prices. There’s so many ways to abuse a card like this, and now we have it as an instant-use artifact instead of a fragile 1/1 that has to wait a turn.

Jaheira, Friend of the Forest – NONCREATURE TOKENS COUNT! So your Treasures are now Mox Emeralds, your Food tokens are Moss Diamond, your Blood tokens are some other artifact that hasn’t been printed but would be too good. This might be good on its own or as an amazing addition to the 99 of some other token-themed commander. Another bulk pick that will one day shine so very brightly.

Cliff (@WordOfCommander) has been writing for MTGPrice since 2013, and is an eager Commander player, Draft enthusiast, and Cube fanatic. A high school science teacher by day, he’s also the official substitute teacher of the MTG Fast Finance podcast. If you’re ever at a GP and you see a giant flashing ‘CUBE DRAFT’ sign, go over, say hi, and be ready to draft.

Unlocked Pro Trader: When Obvious Fails

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This week I was hoping for some really spicy data, and we got it, but we’re going to talk about how to resort to less spicy data when the kind of spicy you get isn’t the kind of spicy you want. Like, imagine you go to a restaurant and order their hottest curry and they come out of the back like “We’re out of ghost peppers” and they pepper spray you instead. I think that tracks as an analogy and I will not be taking questions.

I think I’d be doing you a disservice if I didn’t first show you the data that frustrated me a bit, and it’s the data I was always going to show you at the top of the article, which is worse in a lot of ways. I decided to sort EDHREC by most popular decks this week and didn’t see precisely what I expected. Was it like a shot of capsaicin to the eyeballs? Not quite, it was more like finding a ghost pepper in your mild salsa – the surprise is what gets your the most.

I was prepared for a few of the Baldur’s Gate commanders to make an appearance but I was not quite prepared for Miirym to come out of nowhere. Look, I get that it’s ridiculous to see a Dungeons and Dragons set and be surprised that Dragons are popular. It’s just that, well… why would you ever build Miirym? Or, as everyone else in the community says, why not?

“Riku of 2 Reflections as long as the thing being reflected is a non-token Dragon” is tearing it up! So naturally, this is the first place I want to look to see if we can identify anything.

Either I am getting bad at this or there is just nothing here. Any Dragon here is high synergy because it’s not played in a ton of other Dragon decks, most likely. Did you manage to get Utvara Hellkite cheap when it was first reprinted? I hope so, I hate to pay $15 now. With so many reprints every year, it really doesn’t feel safe to buy into any Dragons for Dragons’ sake. I would have to look elswhere.

If Miiryn shot up in a week, what’s less surgey and more sustainable? I had to know. My search took me back to EDHREC because of course it did, that’s the site I use, I have been very clear on that this whole time.

This, however, I can work with. If Miirym is kind of boring and linear, maybe some of these others can spice things up.

Myrkul, Lord of Skeleton Dollars is a pretty straightforward deck and honestly so narrow that it’s not much more interesting than Miirym but I managed to root around and come away with some gems.

I would have loved to have caught this earlier since it’s up almost 40% on CK but we’re still below the bottom on CK on TCG Player so if you’re upset you have to pay $14 on CK instead of $10, just pay $10. I don’t hate the regular border below $7.50 either, honestly. This is a good card, they’re not going to stop making Golgari graveyard stuff and Ikoria has been out for long enough that this is going to trend right back up. $30? Maybe not, but you’ll certainly be glad you paid $9.75.

I slept on these EA cards a little bit. Champion has already demonstrated that it can hit $10 on CK and paying less on TCG Player seems like a good thing. I wish I’d called this earlier, but since it was flat for 18 months and I got distracted by a new set every 2 weeks, I missed it.

What do you do when you see a radical price discrepancy like this? My first impulse is to make sure all 3 prices are correct, so I checked them all out. Coolstuff is indeed not sold out at basically TCG’s numbers but all other versions are sold out and CK is indeed charging 50% more than the other two sites for this card. CK sells a LOT of EDH cards, so barring the revelation that a pro-Union saboteur changed the price on CK’s site, I’d say there is indication that this card could hit $20 and you’ll be glad you paid $12 if it does.

Tasha, of Hideous Laughter fame, is an eligible commander, which is always worth doing if only for the novelty. Let’s see how people are building it, shall we?

From a spec standpoint this seems a bit meh, but from a “Wow, these are literally all cards I jam in lots of decks” standpoint, this is my DECK. Also, this card is too cheap and I think it’s because I’ve never been invited to play on Game Knights to wreck people with it.

This card is fully very good and I don’t know why no one cares. Don’t spec on this card, by the way, a card tripling in price isn’t that impressive when it is going from 33 cents to a buck.

Really?

Wow, OK.

This is a truly unhinged set of High Synergy cards, which is what we should see, honestly. This isn’t designed to weed out format staples, it’s designed to find the cards only weirdos building Elminster would think to use. One card that caught my eye was this.

Don’t let the silver ink fool you, there are fewer copies of Future Sight Uncommons than there are of New Capenna mythics. This is a very rare card and it’s worth more than I bet anyone thinks. Should I talk about it 2 years after the price doubled? I should if I think this could hit $5, and I do.

I know I’m back on this again, but Elminster isn’t the only deck that wants this and the Mystery Booster copies aren’t adding as much supply as you think. Check bulk rares in stores, I guess. This is a suspicious card, any card that costs 16 mana in a game where you can deal damage equal to CMC is suspicious. Elminster isn’t the best deck for Draco which leads me to believe a better one could be printed whenever and I want to be ready.

Next week will be more of the same followed by a week of New Dominaria spoilers followed by my resignation from having to keep track of 62 new legendary creatures literally 4 weeks after they released 37 new Legendary creatures. Won’t you join me for some of that? Until next time!

The Math of Commander Legends: Battle for Baldur’s Gate – Collector Boosters

Here we are, the dawn of a new set. Preorders are all over the place, spikes are happening left and right, and we’re one month away from Double Masters 2.

For right now, though, I want to focus on the Collector Boosters from Commander Legends: Battle for Baldur’s Gate. Every set since the first Commander Legends I’ve calculated your odds, and I’m glad to bring you this set of data.

Please note that today’s piece is focusing on the Collector Boosters only. Set and Draft Boosters will have to wait, as those require a whole new set of tables and calculations.

Let’s get to it!

First of all, let’s go over what we’re told explicitly. This set has subdivided many of the types and treatments, which helps simplify what can be found where.

One thing I hate about this graphic is that it isn’t in order, according to the box opening videos I’ve watched. Just irks me. 

It’s a bit painful to say, but in terms of rarity, there’s only two slots we’re going to focus on here. The nonfoil, regular frame cards rarely carry a huge price difference from nonfoil showcase or foil regular frame. 

For instance, the slot for Extended-Art Commander rare/mythic. There’s 40 exclusive cards, 12 of them mythic. You’ll have a 1/67 of getting a particular EA mythic or 1/33.5 for a particular EA rare. (Artificer Class does not have an EA version.) Given the volume that’s going to be opened, that’ll be a LOT of cards. The prices on other EA rares/mythics from previous sets backs that up.

The Etched Foil (Legendary Rare/Mythic) slot in Collector Boosters is pretty straightforward. There’s 30 rares and just a pair of mythics. That means only 1/62 CBs will have a particular mythic etched foil, and you’re 1/31 to get whichever etched foil rare you wanted. This pool includes the five rare Backgrounds, which will not show up in the next slot. The other 27 cards are all the rare and mythic Legendary creatures.

Now, the last slot in the Collector Booster, traditionally where the biggest money and the rarest cards are found.

Let’s set up with the basics: When you get to the this slot in a Collector Booster, you’re going to get a Showcase (In this set, that’s the Monster Manual), Borderless, or Extended-Art treatment in foil. We’ve got 72 eligible rares and 22 eligible mythics. Since mythics are half as common as rares, we need to double the number of rares, but keep the same mythics. 

As a result, we get a pool of 176 cards. Two of each rare, one of each mythic. That means we have a 1/88 chance (reduced from 2/176) for any version of a particular rare, and a 1/176 chance of pulling any version of a particular mythic rare.

The short version is that you look up a card, see how many options you have. All rares and mythics in this set have one alternate frame, with the exception of the five Ancient Dragons. Those have a Borderless treatment and a Showcase treatment, and therefore will be the rarest cards in the set.

Rare with 1 alternateMythic with 1 alternateMythic with 2 alternates
1/881/1761/352
Rares with only
Extended Art (47)

Chances: 1/88 Collector
Booster Packs
Altar of Bhaal // Bone Offering
Archivist of Oghma
Ascend from Avernus
Astarion’s Thirst
Baldur’s Gate
Barroom Brawl
Basilisk Collar
Blade of Selves
Bountiful Promenade
Call to the Void
Caves of Chaos Adventurer
Descent into Avernus
Displacer Kitten
Earthquake Dragon
Elder Brain
Eldritch Pact
Elturel Survivors
Firbolg Flutist
Fraying Line
Gale’s Redirection
Horn of Valhalla // Ysgard’s Call
Illithid Harvester // Plant Tadpoles
Intellect Devourer
Jaheira’s Respite
Kindred Discovery
Lae’zel’s Acrobatics
Luxury Suite
Mighty Servant of Leuk-o
Mirror of Life Trapping
Monster Manual // Zoological Study
Morphic Pool
Owlbear Cub
Ravenloft Adventurer
Reflecting Pool
Robe of the Archmagi
Sculpted Sunburst
Sea of Clouds
Spire Garden
Tomb of Horrors Adventurer
Traverse the Outlands
Undermountain Adventurer
Wand of Wonder
White Plume Adventurer
Windshaper Planetar
Wizards of Thay
Wrathful Red Dragon
Wyll’s Reversal
Rares with only Monster
Manual Frame/Art
(Showcase) (25) 

Chances: 1/88 Collector
Booster Packs
Alaundo the Seer
Astarion, the Decadent
Baba Lysaga, Night Witch
Bane, Lord of Darkness
Bhaal, Lord of Murder
Duke Ulder Ravengard
Dynaheir, Invoker Adept
Gale, Waterdeep Prodigy
Gluntch, the Bestower
Gorion, Wise Mentor
Jaheira, Friend of the Forest
Jan Jansen, Chaos Crafter
Jon Irenicus, Shattered One
Lae’zel, Vlaakith’s Champion
Mazzy, Truesword Paladin
Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm
Myrkul, Lord of Bones
Neera, Wild Mage
Nine-Fingers Keene
Raggadragga, Goreguts Boss
Raphael, Fiendish Savior
Shadowheart, Dark Justiciar
The Council of Four
Wyll, Blade of Frontiers
Zevlor, Elturel Exile

Yes, you’re reading that correctly. Given these odds, a full 80 percent or so of rares will be in Collector Boosters’ last slot. Please note, though, that the Legendary Rare Backgrounds are not in this list. Those are in regular foil and etched foil, and therefore are not included for this slot.

Mythics with only Extended Art (19) 
(Includes the Commander exclusives)

Chances: 1/176 Collector Booster Packs
Baeloth Barrityl, Entertainer
Balor
Blood Money
Burakos, Party Leader
Captain N’ghathrod
Clan Crafter
Durnan of the Yawning Portal
Elminster’s Simulacrum
Faldorn, Dread Wolf Herald
Firkraag, Cunning Instigator
Folk Hero
Font of Magic
Haunted One
Majestic Genesis
Nalia de’Arnise
Pact Weapon
Passionate Archaeologist
Storm King’s Thunder
Zellix, Sanity Flayer
Mythics with Monster Manual Frame/Art (Showcase) (2) 

Chances: 1/176 Collector Booster Packs
Karlach, Fury of Avernus
Volo, Itinerant Scholar
Mythics with Borderless
Alternate Art (8)

Chances: 1/176 Collector
Booster Packs

Battle Angels of Tyr
Bramble Sovereign
Elminster
Legion Loyalty
Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes
Nautiloid Ship
Tasha, the Witch Queen
Vexing Puzzlebox
Mythics with Borderless Alternate
Art OR Monster Manual Frame/Art (Showcase) (5)
Chances: 1/352 Collector Booster
Packs (per version)
Ancient Brass Dragon
Ancient Bronze Dragon
Ancient Copper Dragon
Ancient Gold Dragon
Ancient Silver Dragon

Point of clarification here: This set has less overlap in versions than the last few did. No mythics have three special versions, and no rare has two. An interesting choice from WotC here, but it makes my life simpler.

Generally speaking, things are as rare in this set as they were in previous sets. Let’s have a couple of comparisons, handily from my own research.

Set NameOdds of a specific foil treatment rareOdds of a specific foil treatment mythic
CL: Battle for Baldur’s Gate1/881/176 to 1/352
Streets of New Capenna1/82 to 1/1641/164 to 1/492
Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty1/1361/272 up to 1/544
Innistrad: Crimson Vow1/741/171
Innistrad: Midnight Hunt1/75.51/151
Forgotten Realms1/631/126
Strixhaven1/154.51/309
Kaldheim1/641/128
Modern Horizons 21/126.51/253
Commander Legends EA Foils1/2041/400

Or for specific cards, the rarest from each set:

Card/TreatmentSetOdds of pulling it from a Collector Booster (approx.)
Phyrexian Foil VorinclexKaldheim1/256
Japanese-Language Alternate Art Time Warp FoilStrixhaven (Mystical Archive)1/309
Foil Extended Art The Meathook MassacreInnistrad: Midnight Hunt1/151
Foil Fang Frame Sorin, the Mirthless by Ayami KojimaInnistrad: Crimson Vow1/171
Extended Art Foil Jeweled LotusCommander Legends1/400
Phyrexian foil (or foil-etched) Jin-GitaxiasKamigawa: Neon Dynasty1/544
Blue Soft Glow HidetsuguKamigawa: Neon Dynasty1/219
Green Soft Glow HidetsuguKamigawa: Neon Dynasty1/444
Red Soft Glow HidetsuguKamigawa: Neon Dynasty1/1828
Phyrexian Foil Urabrask, Heretic PraetorStreets of New Capenna1/492
Borderless Foil Ancient Brass DragonCommander Legends: Battle for Baldur’s Gate1/352

That stacks up well, and while Wizards loves to mess with things and change around numbers to make my life miserable, it’s worth noting that the rarest cards in this set are about 25% more common than in Streets of New Capenna. Opening 140 less Collector Boosters is certainly good news for the biggest vendors.

I hope that this helps inform your decisions about what to buy and not buy, as well as manage your expectations when you’re opening these packs. 

Cliff (@WordOfCommander) has been writing for MTGPrice since 2013, and is an eager Commander player, Draft enthusiast, and Cube fanatic. A high school science teacher by day, he’s also the official substitute teacher of the MTG Fast Finance podcast. If you’re ever at a GP and you see a giant flashing ‘CUBE DRAFT’ sign, go over, say hi, and be ready to draft.

Unlocked Pro Trader: Baldur’s Gate Specs

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I seriously stared at the title line for 10 minutes and drew a complete blank. I can cut my losses and submit a terrible, generic title or I can stare at it for another half hour and run the risk of still having a terrible, generic title.

“Wait” I can pretend to hear you asking “do you mean to tell me coming up with an article full of future potential specs backed by inclusion data and a decade of M:tG finance experience is easier than making a pun title?” which sounds like a dunk because it absolutely is easier in this instance, and how good EDHREC has been at identifying potential specs before anyone else is a big part of it. I have no one’s help for writing a pun title, especially one I haven’t used in the last 3 months to do any of those set review articles. I have lots of help when I write these articles, and EDHREC is almost all of it. Let’s see how the set looks, shall we?

Wait, this can’t possibly be right, can it?

Awesome.

We won’t go through all 62, but we won’t need to because the top ones need attention first. Let’s get into it!

Tokens goodstuff is pretty boring but I guess they can’t keep churning out interesting commanders 62 at a time. This is popular but nothing in it is super new, which is a drag.

At this point, there is probably a case to be made for any card from Shadowmoor block that can untap by adding a -1/-1 counter. It’s not just Devoted Druid, though that is the obvious one. Druid and Vizier of Remedies. The foil on this is trending up regardless and maybe you pick the regular ones out of bulk, too.

For reference, Grim Guardian, another card in the deck, is a $4 foil due in part to how popular it has been in EDH in the last year and how few foils of trash commons there are online. I don’t think medic hits $4 but it might not not.

Medic has some catching up to do first, obviously, but if this is a combo piece, Medic does something a lot more repeatable. Ultimately, I guess keep an eye on EDH foils, even fringe ones. I mean foils, no Pringles -5 years old and older is preferred.

None of this is really new, either, except the cards that are themselves new. New commanders come out so fast that the 70% of a Xanathar deck I have built probably becomes Tasha, or a commander from the next set if I miss the 2 week window to build Baldur’s Gate.

Sire is having a bit of a mini down-tick which seems fine. This is already flirting with $9 on CK, I think you can see your way clear to paying half of that on TCG Player right now and toppling the domino.

I want to live in a world where Tinder Wall is worth something.

Sure glad I didn’t pay $30 for these. They’re up a bit which means they’re likely done dropping which means these are pretty attractive around $10. It’s not just this deck that wants these but this deck wants them a lot.

Maybe this is an illustration of how trash modern foils are, but Grumgully just seems like it should be worth more. It’s not a great commander, but it can be a lot of fun in the right deck.

It isn’t not played.

I think this is a card I’ll wonder how it’s so inexpensive, forget about it for 3 years then wonder why it’s so expensive.

Weird pile.

Why isn’t this card worth more money while we’re at it? It makes no sense.

Not sure which Kermit to listen to here but I don’t like how this price is so sticky.

We talked about RaggidyDraggidy a bit last week but it made the most obvious specs go off. Is there anything else this card can do?

This should cost more money. I know I’m a broken record, but sheesh.

This seems to be trending upward enough that I think it’s a decent buy at its current price. There was never a great time to buy it since it debuted on CK at more than it goes for on TCG Player now. The truth is this price hasn’t moved much and any hint of upward movement is enough for me.

Next week we can dive into some lesser-played commanders in part 2. Until next time!

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